You have reached the maximum quantity allowed. But remember, they also promoted the idea that a 22 was just as good as 38, 9mm, etc. 2. “The original King Cobras were offered in multiple barrel lengths. Pretty neat. Those are not small advantages. By Sam Joseph Semon For Dailymail.com. I like the gun, a lot. More specifically, its lack thereof. The big distinction between a “modern” revolver design and the “classic Colt DA” design is the rebound lever/bar in the lockwork. Lots of these smaller, complicated parts require multiple set-ups, fixtures, custom tooling, etc. An endshake of 0.003″ in a factory-new Colt used to be considered the upper limit of the endshake specification. When I move to a gun friendly state I would like the 101 as a trail gun. It’s called extracting value from the market. You can now swap out the front sight from Brownells, if they restock. Or maybe you read “heavy duty frame” and thought of something along the lines of the Ruger GP100. See if you think the reward is worth the return. You see, we had a little group of about five of us that liked firearms. Just most of the time. I believe 2 inch barrel, and a factory bobbed hammer. I think I have that right — going strictly on intuitive reasoning here. Colt’s revolvers are famous for two things: stacking triggers and a “bank vault lock-up.” There isn’t much cylinder movement at all  in the new King Cobra, but it’s there. “The Python Goes Stainless.” Bought it a rushed backed to the barracks. Now the only time I carry the .357 is when it’s filled with snake shot. Customization: * * Veteran, army medic, proud Texas son. If it had been found in a wall locker inspection, or on my person before Florida had a CCW it would have been my ass. The Anaconda, Peacekeeper, King Cobra, and the last Detective Special were all guns built on the road to bankruptcy. Yes I know they really not necessary but make no mistake the average old time experienced gun owner knows he is getting a sub standard made revolver compared to the workmanship of the older Colt revolvers made in the distant past. But if you’re not, it’s hard to see why you would give up significant velocity for… what? But the piece has to thicker because it not as strong as forged metal. Cobra Kai's BACK baby! I called both of those companies and their reps told me there were no plans to stock a holster for the new King Cobra at that time. Not the Colt, that beast was a turd. can’t tell the difference and I sure as shit couldn’t. Even though Colt should be out of business. Actually I’m surprised it’s not the other way around since the longer cylinder will result in more free-bore (longer leade). Gun Review: Smith & Wesson M&P380 SHIELD EZ – Take 2, http://www.patriciabriggs.com/articles/silver/silverbullets.shtml. If you bought a post war Smith for 250 ….it was probably stolen. If it’s standard velocity that’s a shade under .38 Spl +P. I was personally disappointed that the new King Cobra was not a GP100/686 sized gun lie the original. Take a look at that mainspring in the photo above. Yes. That extra inch wouldn’t give up much of anything in carryability, especially in an already light revolver, but it would gain in accuracy, power, and controllability. It was, of course, a BBQ and shooting event. Ruger should have brought this out as a bigger LCR years ago ( I have emailed them many times but they have not listened to me – imagine that). Like the GLOCK 19, the King Cobra strikes a Goldilocks-like balance of a gun that’s easy to carry, easy to handle, and easy to shoot. Once the hammer is released from the trigger, it rotates forward striking the transfer bar transferring energy to the firing pin to ignite the cartridge in the chamber. Prices are coming down to under $800, and it screams quality. My local gun shop owner sent this gun back to Colt but told me not to hold my breath for any great revelations from Colt ! I predict this new revolver by Colt will not last long in today’s market. TaylorMade r7 Quad Driver 45in RH 10.5 Degree Graphite Shaft Stiff Flex. Specialist38, I’m surprised I have never heard that before. When reading honest reviews by “real” people who actually got stuck with this turkey they have been highly dissatisfied with the gun. Rep your dojo with this white long-sleeved tee from, Cobra Kai Logo Strike First Long-Sleeve T-Shirt. return of the king of wheel guns… The Colt Python!! The challenge is getting them to write reviews. S&W, Rugers, etc solve this problem by “cleaving” the revolver function – the mainspring drives the hammer fall, and there is a separate spring for the trigger reset. Meant to mention, one of my best friend’s son-in-law is a guide on Ted Turner’s ranch in New Mexico. Maybe I will give update. If the barrel was an inch shorter I would have one on order already, but I get that Colt doesn’t want to cannibalize sales from their .38 line. Unless I’m just out of commercial rounds to complete the review, I don’t usually use my own hand loads in review guns. None of them, however, were 3 inches.”. .357 mag is just a loud .38 in short barrels. That swap is especially common with magnum caliber revolvers. Beyond a little more end shake than I was expecting, my Colt King Cobra also has some play in the rotation of the cylinder during lock-up. There’s a whole lot of folks out there that know a whole lot more about guns than I do. The LCR is waaaaay cheaper to make than an SP101. Coincidentally, the GP and 686 also have identical MSRPs, so my guess is that heat treated cast steel isn’t that much cheaper than forging. They know the gun is flawed ! Reliability: * * * * * You don’t like my posts? Not that it really matters. This is not usually the case in other makes like Ruger and Colt. or a bit more from the factory. Shorten the barrel by .5″ and I’d gladly put my marriage at risk for its acquisition. It also packs a punch powerful enough to take out a deer or a feral hog at closer ranges. 2. Ken Water had a great article on it in Handloader back in the day. The cylinder continues to rotate until the bolt drops into the next cylinder notch assuring proper alignment of the chamber, barrel, and firing pin before the hammer is released. I’ve owned two other 6″ blue and one 4″ nickel. Averaged over the entire 20-round box, it scored at 1 1/4″. I use my Ruger SP101 in .357 and have written off the worthless Colt King Cobra. Have a 4″ 629 Mountain Gun that might be. Overall, if you are into wheel guns, the Colt is worth it. Anyone wanting to try the Colt King Cobra had better have over $900 dollars to throw away. This has been one of a couple of revolvers that make me seriously reconsider carrying a semi-automatic pistol. This is likely the result of cutting in the thick top strap during the making of the barrel channel. Taylormade M1 460 9.5 Degree Driver Stiff Flex Tensei Graphite 0880510. I saw a 2.5 inch stainless NIB a while back for $3200. I sent it back to Colt. Pieces of their heads all over the back yard. to be evaluated for use by their plainclothes detectives. Ok. The MIM cast part used in this crudely made revolver are not even made by Colt. Fungunner Once the order is placed with pickup option and it's ready, you’ll get instructions on how to let us know when you arrive at store. Some folks are good at staging this trigger, but I’m not one of them. Might as well make it 8 of us. Handles full FULL house H110 loads like a tank. I prefer 4 + generally with revolvers. The problem was price and location. At no time did I have any round fail to fire. I stopped debating on whether it was worth the trade off and switched to a Glock 19. This is a fine, functional grip and many folks replace their factory revolver grips with the Hogue grips. I’m not surprised those Barnes copper bullets performed so well in your revolver. In those days if you wanted a 1911 it was a Series 70 Colt Government Model. Colt does indeed use MIM. I thought David Soul’s 6″ Python was the coolest revolver I had ever seen. The Skeeter Load was one many used in 357 Smith’s. Between the fitting of the hand, the ratchet, and the bolt, the goal was to get the Colt to have absolutely no wiggle in the cylinder – side to side, rotationally, or front to rear. Since I had already purchased this one, I went ahead and fed it a very steady diet of my own reloaded rounds. But that’s for the older Colt revolvers. I can see no reasons against it, and so far, after six months of shooting, so good. A wood grip option and getting rid of those tool marks would make this a solid 5-star gun. Of course, since they are immediately all sold out the second Colt offers them, they actually go online for $2.500. I bought one of these Colt King Cobras and it is the most inaccurate gun that I have ever tried to shoot ! For just one ounce, you get another round in the cylinder with the King Cobra. The lack of attention there by Colt does not breed confidence. The rear sight channel is lightly honed so that there are no shiny stops along the sight path. Cody, touch off a few rounds of .357 magnum from a 2-3″ barrel over a chronograph and a few .38 +P Spl. I am aware of Kimbers offering but have not liked what i held. Given the 3-inch barrel and relatively short sight radius, this level of precision surprised me. Things like pistol-whipping someone with the butt of a Colt DA revolver can cause it to go out of time. Gun Review: Colt King Cobra .357 Revolver. The coil spring setup will give you a different stacking characteristic than the V spring. Don’t get me wrong, 20 rounds of that 180 gr Buffalo Bore load had me needing to take a quick break. 45" x 60" Polyester Wash cold; dry low Imported It’s the “when I see them” part that’s the hardest. I didn’t know that. I used to say Ruger revolvers were overbuilt. The Barnes 140 gr VOR-TX .357 Magnum cartridge shot legitimate 1-inch groups from the same set up. Having said that, this gun is on my list of wants. Again, bone stock gun. So did Bill Jordan, Skeeter Skeleton and many others that I cut my teeth on. One to start the cylinder turning and one to lock it up tight when you pull the trigger. Many folks consider the ideal end shake to be zero. Skeeter crimped his 158gr bullet to the bottom groove and ran the bullet up to 1,200 feet per second. Frame Finish: Brushed stainless Then it has a double hand like the Colts of old. Just never felt like I needed to ask permission to exercise my 2A rights. Question. S&W had always satisfied me before. Then you dont understand marketing. If the KC is between a J and K frame, how well will it handle constant 357 loads? Then again I just use them for fun. I don’t have a plug gauge long enough to find out. The SP 101 in .327 Fed Mag with the 3 in barrel is the perfect trail gun. Ruger revolvers are stronger than Smith’s, not because they use more metal, but because the metal is more strategically placed. She’s hell on wheels with it. Sure, Colt hung on to the all-forged revolver longer with the Python and Anaconda, but we all know how that ended up. Just stumps left for necks. City once owned a S&W 24 (stolen), 624 and a Lou Horton 3″ round butt special run. I also own a few S&W revolvers, a ruger, and a couple of NAA revolvers. I watched Starsky & Hutch. I ended up shooting this gun very well single-handed, which I expect will most likely be how I get the first round out of any handgun in a defensive gun use. Remember forged metal is heat treated as well to prevent brittleness. Well , I got the gun back from COLT with a note stating that all was within specs ! Unless you using “the Load” for 38 special…….and most people wont . I believe it’s called the silver dollar? Extra 10% Off + Free In-Store Pickup I have used many different brands in both .38 and .357 ! What I’d pay good money for is low profile sights like on the S&W 640 Pro or the SP101 Wiley Clapp. Although, I have. The cylinder never bound, never failed to smoothly turn. So use the full bore .357 loads and you’ll get more ME out of the 3″ than most factory loads get out of a 4″. Colt endshakes wanted to be 0.001 to 0.002″. Mainly … producing frames that need no machining or even buffing to build a gun. Use a rifle. The finish is certainly much better with the Colt, as is the trigger. This gun in the article is exactly what I would want in a revolver. It is louder and definitely has more flash. Zombie Alpaca (Flocked) Vinyl Figure Hot Topic Exclusive, Funko Marvel Fantastic Four Pop! The M.E. With its 3-inch barrel, Colt has clearly released the King Cobra as an everyday concealed carry revolver. (4) This slightly longer period of time allows more time for expanding gases to escape around the brass casing in the cylinder and through the cylinder gap before the bullet leaves the muzzle, which reduces the pressure (ever so slightly) in the barrel and therefore muzzle velocity. Did you have a rough childhood, cupcake? The load was a gas checked, well lubed 300gr LSWC moving just OVER 1,200fps! Proper heat treating makes a world of difference in cast steel. The hand is pushing the cylinder “into the window” (ie, clockwise from your perspective while holding the gun), and this pushes the cylinder into full engagement with the bolt. My G19 and Security 9 compact are the IWB carry guns (but that is rare for me). I think you meant “I’m PAYING for one in Royal Blue.”. Please add htonline@hottopic.com to your E-mail address book or approved senders to ensure delivery of all Hottopic.com e-mails. For small knives, I think the old timer/schrade lady fingers are perfect. 🙂. Let’s hope they go the same direction as the earlier .38 Spl +P Cobra and re-release multiple version of the gun. What also surprised me is how much I still like this gun. I’m glad you hate to correct me, because you didn’t. If that rebound lever’s geometry is tweeked for whatever reason in a classic Colt DA, the timing of the gun falls apart – quickly. A shooting buddy of mine that passed 11 years ago had a stash of .45 colt rounds in baggies that his widow just found in his workshop. The Shelby 427 Cobra began life in England as the AC Ace in 1953. As an aside, read your reply to my comment on RMK. Like the tidbit about .38 vs .357. When the hammer is approximately halfway to its cocked position the bolt is released from the trigger and rides on the outside of the cylinder. Some better known Smith would put several bends in them to balance light with smooth. If they can do it on the SAAs (and they do) they can do it on a DA revolver. Cuddle up with this cozy blanket while you watch your favorite Cobra Kai episodes! Cody, so you down graded from .357 S&W magnum to 9mm. Don’t read them. Religiously. It’s not a mirror shine, but it’s close. As with all guns, you can make a great gun perform bad with the wrong round, and all kinds of good with the right one. Your affinity for constantly reminding everyone of your law “enforcement” career is truly something to behold. There simply is no comparison to the old fashion quality of yesteryear and today’s modern made cast iron garbage. Cobra Kai season four 'has begun filming in Atlanta' as cast member confirms start date in now-deleted tweet. Many revolvers ( even Smith’s) have a light cut in the top strap from the factory. Frame Material: Stainless steel I can find no major holster company fitting this gun correctly at this time. There was one other spring, and that was the bolt lift spring, a little coil spring under the head of the bolt. Multiple weights, velocities, types of bullets, and two different cartridges. You sold me on it, but I was probably already sold anyway. Most people dont even know the issue exists. Never mentioned what my career was. If you’re conceal carrying, especially with an OWB holster, 3in may be the best for your needs. I’ve read that’s why pistol cartridges like 9mm do better in snubbies than you’d expect, because of the extra free-bore. This was recommended only in .357 Magnum-rated guns, as well as some S&W N-frame .38/44s. Lets face facts if you want a more affordable revolver then why not just get the crudely made cast iron Ruger, yes they are crude but you expect that at the lower price and they were engineered to be very durable. None of them, however, were 3 inches. This should be five stars. I really enjoy shooting them. Strong enough? Wish I had them back. Wouldn’t the king of the snake guns be the Anaconda? Log in with either your Library Card Number or EZ Login. Library Card Number or EZ Username PIN or EZ Password. The heart of any double action revolver is its trigger and the King Cobra ships straight from Hartford, Connecticut with a great trigger. Well, only off duty when in the army. As for the machine marks on the underside of the top strap: that’s disappointing. Last I knew, Colt is using MIM for for several parts in their 1911. until 91. Colt saves money by cutting down on qualified and well trained inspectors and employees and saves money again by shoving everything out the door as quickly as possible. If you want all those pieces to be forged and hand finished to fit, or CNC machined, or something along those lines, then I hope you’re willing to pay twice as much for a gun with the exact same performance, reliability, feel, etc etc etc. The original King Cobras were offered in multiple barrel lengths. Living in the south, the stainless guns went like hotcakes even though they ran 50% more than carbon steel Pythons. Eliminating the side plate qualifies as brilliant design in my book. miraculous: tales of ladybug and cat noir, Rolling Stones '94 Tongue Girls Crop T-Shirt, Black & White Checkered Overalls With Chain, Nissin Cup Noodles X Hello Kitty Climbing Girls Crop T-Shirt Plus Size, O-Ring Chain Plaid Pleated Skirt Plus Size, Star Wars The Mandalorian Ahsoka Tano Photo T-Shirt, Not Today Satan Floral Passport Crossbody Bag, Disney Pixar Up Balloons House Tapestry Throw Blanket, Funko Clue Pop! Loaded with a hot .38 Spl and with two .357 Magnum reloads, I would never feel under-gunned. Well, funny thing about that: The original Trooper Mk I had a V-spring and E&I type action, and not the coil-on-a-rod spring and the later internals. cgray, the only thing I said is that Col. Jeff Cooper’s monthly article”Cooper On Handguns” had an enormous influence on my weapon of choice for my career. I’m not sure I would be either, especially given some of the knowledge he professes. I’ll just buy one for each hand. Back in the day some of the pros I read/talked to called a 4″ .357 mag a loud .38. Just dip the cast silver into holy water, say a prayer, and you’re good to go. But I like bowies, filets, and large flexible boning knives more. We can stay at 7. But—-if you do not get a good one—-Colt service is about as slow as it gets ! Carry guns are certainly the most popular market segment these days. https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/revolver-ballistics-test/#38spl. Like every double-action Colt, it has just a bit of stack right at the back of the trigger pull (and I do mean right at the very back). You have entered an incorrect email address! When I got the King Cobra, I noticed a bit of cylinder end shake. Like my kids, I’m toughest on the guns I like. International delivery is available to 150+ countries and will calculate at checkout. Anyway, the 586 and 686 were developed in response to the Security Six which would take as many of those hot (but not +p) loads as you could stand to put through them. Other scribes had noted it in their work but Ken wrung it out a little more. Impressive review and writing in general. The point is, if you are really a student of firearms, if you are in a profession that requires you to carry one daily and go out of your way to learn everything you can, (I used to take vacation time and pay out of pocket to go to more than one class.) That one was stout. If we can’t see a Python now, a Python-like finish would be almost as good. Not sure if cast can be made to be as strong as forged but with proper heat treatment it’s closer than you think. Only four things matter: 1. It’s also easy to use when held against a body, either mine or my assailant’s, another key advantage of a revolver. They exist, to some extent, on every one of the new models I’ve found. Perhaps some of the gunsmiths out there can let me know why they think this change was made in the comments. Took some artwork to gets the pull smoother without stacking. I trap and shoot them and give them away. Maybe since .38 special is such a low pressure round there’s too much leade and the pressure drops to much. It doesn’t matter. He was prone to going out on flights of fancy and he regarded manuals and rule books as suggestions. Except my 6″ stainless Python is not in play. These loads will never be fired. Double action revolvers have a lot going on in the trigger. Sadly, the best Python & Colt ‘smiths (gentlemen like Looking at your picture of the internals of this revolver, it is nothing like the innards of the E&I’,s Pythons or other classic Colt revolvers. At the time of this writing, all Colt King Cobras come from the factory with a brass bead insert front sight. I’ve always wondered about how the hardness and light weight of silver would work in a wheel gun. When I ETSd I bought a 6″ stainless Python. No so much with the new 3-inch gun. For P.O. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-kimber-ks6-dcr-357magnum/. That includes many F.H.P. Fuck the government. 1.4″ 5 round groups at 25 yards. There are a series of deep gouges there, just beyond the edge of the forcing cone. I’m glad to hear that you are planning to move out of California.😃. They gave a smooth pull but stacked toward the end of the pull. I do love me a wheel gun. With most rounds, the .357 Magnum takes a pretty steep dive in the velocity and corresponding energy department in short barrels. Only one of my hand loads, a recreation of the Skeeter Skelton .38 Spl +P+++ load, ever had any trouble ejecting from the cylinder, as long as I gave the ejector rod a solid press. I gut and butcher a lot of animals. One was a load I’ve read about for decades, but never duplicated. Considering its relatively light weight, recoil in .357 Magnum is very manageable. At 3 inches, it was far outside every other round, and recoil was stout. Thixotropic DOES NOT know what the f**k he’s talking about. These could be reduced, with skill. I’ve shot it with the 180 gr Buffalo Bore bullet moving at 1,300 fps. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. And I’m pretty sure my BB, I’m too lazy to get in the safe right now and double check, .38 special 110 grain copper hollowpoints are loaded with Barnes bullets as well. To see machining marks there would be off-putting to many revolver aficionados and collectors who obsess over buying revolvers without flame-cut marks on that area of the top strap. And I also have no issues with it if it’s done right. Like to see a back to back shootout with a Ruger SP-101 MIM has a high initial setup overhead, but once you get that investment made, the per-part cost drops substantially from machined tool steel parts. And the classic Colt’s are too cool. Good customer service—huh ? By continuing to use our website or closing this banner, you consent to our use of cookies, Privacy Policy, and Terms of Use. Their philosophy is that the U.S. is such a big gun market that they could not care less if they never have any repeat customers. Even up in the trees. They are a quality product. Shot placement. (A venison rolled shoulder roast is damn near impossible without a flexing blade.)